SHORTS MEN : You are being irrationmal as usual.I was saying that it's normal for a physically abnormal person (such as 4'2woman) to be disciminated against in the job and mating market.I didn't say anything about bashing and persecuting herI don't believe gays (even the obvious effeminated ones) should be bashednor do I think the shorts should be bashed.What I was saying is that's it's normal for that woman to be discrminitatedagainst in the mating market and in the higher ends competitive jobs.You came up with that ridiculous comparison. Clearly, you are starting to beout of rationalarguments and have to resorts to this kind of non-sensical logic.There are no laws that says you should be desirable, and there are no lawsthat says one should be entitled to have high ends jobs. There are also nolawsthat force people to like you. If that 4'2 women is rather (socially)unpopular where she worked, that's no crime. Bashing someone,gay orotherwise is on the other hand. The very fact that you came up with such a silly line of reasonning (yourline of reasonning obviously) shows how desperate you are.
SHORTS MEN : And since your the one that feel so persecuted and ostracized it's correctto assume that you were indeed talking about personal experience.If you want to jump off a bridge ,just do it sheesh...I don't think it has much to do with shortness though.The shorts men probably have an higher incidence of suicide too.The obvious effeminated gays will get a rought treatment in school nodoubts.It's not that different than to be called shorty on a constant basis.I know, I think.it's fine.It's ok that gay people have the right to be legally united, however Ibelieve the anti-gay mariage proponents's problem with this is not so muchwith the concept of union but with the term...mariageI told you, stop misundertanding what I say or downright projecting your ownthoughts.You are showing clear signs of inability to comprehend.jacob, read it carefullly:I never ever said the shorts men shouldn't have any right. There.In fact, I believe they should have.What YOU have a problem distinguishing between is: 'social rights' isn't thesame thing as "a right to be attractive to females" and "a right to be takenseriously by it's peers" SHORTS MEN : Nobody talked about social darwinism.Only sexual selection.That's ALL people here mentionned. You came up with that deliriouscomparaison "discriminating short = same thing as bashing gay men" (Boy,sexual selection sure had some devastating effect on your psych,lol!)There's no need for social darwinism. Good old sexual selection will do thejob just fine :)Actually,people who wants to ensure their genetic survival will avoid lowvalue mates.No need for social darwinism.Again, instead of projecting you're own suicide fantasies because of allthat resentment, bitterness and disatifaction with your mediocre familylife.Follow your own advice and get "yourself out of the pool"Instead of telling people who will never breed not tobreed. Start by making you're own contribution by following you're ownadviceThere's no law *nor will there ever be* that will force females to be withshort guys.Ever.Get that right,stupid.The closest thing to that is still the mail order bride thing.You think females need to show you their hard nipples (ohoh man...)You also think there is a paralel between black people and short men. SHORTS MEN : I'ts all in what you want.. there is no right and wrong of it. Moutnainbiking is one of my passions, and I have no regrets in buying a really sweetpeice bike... but then again, if I'm not sewing I'm on the singletrack.If you are not wearing a padded short, yes, that could definitely be aproblem. I use a stretch and sew pattern, and I make my chamois out ofpolartec and ultra suede. It could also be your saddle, and it could be justbeing saddle sore from not riding enough miles.I haven't bought bike shorts in years.Naw, I wasn't. Thought about buying a pair and decided I ought to atleast take one ride first. I enjoyed it enough I think it's worth it forthe future, I guess this'll be my next project on my cheap low-endCostco Singer! :)Thanks!-CharlotteWombat,I was surprised you didn't respond when I posted earlier about having acheap Singer.I don't think it is a 5050. I honestly can't recall, though I will tryto remember to look. It is at least 10 years old. Let's see, first thingI ever sewed on it was a skkirt to wear to a middle school Christmasdance so that would make it at least 12 years old. It was bottom of theline then, I've never had it serviced. I used my mother's Pfaff for manyof those 12 years, and I'm now putting in about 5 hours a week on it(give ot take) and it is behaving fine. Not great but acceptable. It hascost $12.50/year to own, I say it's great!-Charlotte SHORTS MEN : Nope!Plastic all the way, plus it only does forward, back, and variants ofzigzag. Ya'll are making feel like I need a better machine. My greatgreat aunt Charlotte has offered me her old machine, I'll have to checkit out this weekend. My mother has (in addition to all her machines) mygrandmother's old one, a treadle converted to electric that has sincefailed, needs to be a treadle again. I have a treadle base as a table,Christmas gift from the boyfriend, someday I'll have to unite the two.At the moment my apartment is just too small, and the sewing machine sofar away that I just can't do that.Talked to the boyfriend about a "hardtail" bicycle... Didn't call itthat, called it stiffback or something like that and he corrected me.Anyway, he said that it would be nice and that someday he might put afront shock on "Rosebud" but that it's an added vulnerability. He claimsthat gaskets can blow and if that were to happen in a race he'd befinished. He says that folks with shocks eke out seconds on him in thedownhill stretches but he makes up minutes on the uphills.
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