SHORTS GIRLS : I do know that discipline is enforced in the military. In the U.S., anavy chaplain was fired, supposedly because he wore his yarmulke(skullcap). He sued, and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that militarydiscipline trumped freedom of religion. I think that was a terribledecision. But is public school really like the military?To reply by email, please take out the TRASH (so to speak). Personal messages only, please!It would, if the voice of a female is enticing and that is without seeing theperson behind the voice.No. It's about Singapore. But people keep bringing up the idea of the"separation of church and state," so I keep pointing out thatrefraining from infringing on the right of students to wear religiousgarb of their choice is not a separation of church and state: Rather,it constitutes ACTIVE HOSTILITY to a free exercise of religion.I don't think anyone was referring to such rules. Care to share them?Certainly, it's not an icon! Icons are strictly forbidden in Islam!Perhaps they're enticing to boys? Well, let's not go there...To reply by email, please take out the TRASH (so to speak). Personal messages only, please!
SHORTS GIRLS : And no chafing! Unless you are all very thin, you may have problems with yourthighs brushing together. I will second tights- short or long! :)Why would they be mandatory for practice? I bet the boys team has somethingto do with that one...As a member of the guys team that would often be out to support thegirls' team I put full emphasis on the necessity of the briefs...Inpractise too! Why would they be mandatory for practice? I've never seen anyone wearbunhuggers for practice. For that matter, I've never seen any highschool team train in their racing outfits except for team warmupsmaybe.I'm a guy so I don't mind the look much, though not everyone looksgood in them. I wouldn't want to wear them if I was a girl though;I'm the kind of guy who keeps his shirt on in hot weather. If youfeel that they look too skimpy, you're not the only one. MarionJones, in her biography, states that she has never worn and refuses towear bunhuggers and I applaud her being so sure of herself. She wearsthe bike short type of running pants. My friend's university team isgetting new uniforms and she's stubbornly against getting thebunhuggers and says that she'll refuse to wear them although others onthe team want them. Anyways, it doesn't seem like it would be fair toleave it to a simple majority rule vote if there are some girls whoabsolutely don't feel comfortable wearing them, though I can see themcaving in to peer pressure. An alternative, that may or may not workdepending on your school and local h.s. federation rules, would be toallow a choice between bunhuggers and shorts or bike shorts, like howthe U.S. international team members have a choice of different typesof team racing suits that still match. If you really feel that theyare too skimpy, it's o.k to be stubborn about it and speak your mindin addition to placing your vote.
SHORTS GIRLS : I think you should not only vote for shorts (since that's what youindicated you preferred), but also talk to the coach about how you thinkthe bunhuggers are too skimpy. Personally, I'm sure that wearingbunhuggers would have distracted me from my running in high school--worrying that if I looked too good, guys would be drooling, and if Ididn't look good in them, people would be laughing. On a differentnote, I find it funny that Marion Jones refuses to wear bunhuggers, butwould pose nude for an ad.DarcyI would check with you high school rules. Some ban the bunhuggers (a schoolin FL a few years ago lost the state title because they were wearing thebunhuggers and were against the rules).It should be mentioned that the coach in question was warned *before*the race that they were prohibited, didn't tell the girls or theirparents, and let them wear them anyway.Mike Tennent"IronPenguin"Ironman Canada '98 Great Floridian '99, '00I tried to look up this word in my Oxford Advanced Learner'sDictionary, but didn't find it. Could some kind soul explain a German,what a bunhugger is? (Some kind of shorts?)
SHORTS GIRLS : Hi, my name is Emma and I'm 15. I live in Eire (Irish Republic).I really love cross country running and also the longer track events,especially 800m. I also play volleyball.Problem is, in my school and pretty much every school or club in Ireland, girlshave to play in just a top and briefs - we don't have the option of wearingshorts over the top.I *really* hate this! I feel sooooo exposed! Although the briefs are maybe alittle less skimpy than your average undies, and are in a thicker materially,basically they're just a pair of knickers. You can't wear anything elseunderneath, you have to keep your pubies in trim, and basically it's likerunning around in your underwear.I've asked my friends whether they feel as embarrassed as I do. One does, butmost either don't mind or say they really like the briefs and would hate towear shorts. They think it's not so ladylike or professional.I'm trying to find out what goes on in other countries. What do most girls wearfor running, volleyball etc in English schools? Do you have to wear briefs orshorts, or do you have a choice?
SHORTS GIRLS : I would like to either get some ammo to persuade people to sign a petition orget enough reassurance that Ifeel happy to keep competing and training inbriefs.On 28 Aug 2000 00:13:31 GMT, (Embee98) stood up,raised ones hand and gleefully exclaimed:i take it that those catholic and protestant priests are looking atyou while you wear those briefs or are you one of those priests undera pseudonym?!?puck'...aura tout fait par amour, tout ce qui compte : l'amour et la musique. Mais l'amour, comme on sait, l'aura moins aime que la musique.' - alain gerberWell you don't get a lot of priests or nuns in Catholic schools in Irelandthese days, just normal teachers.I don't think it's that the teachers are pervs, it's just the rules that girlswear briefs for sport in my country. Also most of the girls don't see anythingwrong in it, which makes it difficult for me to get them to take my side intrying to get the rules changed so we can wear shorts.I've never heard of anything like this in any British schools (oranywhere else) I'd imagine the girls there all wear shorts. I'd alsoworry seriously about any teachers who insisted on this form of dressand their motives for doing so.
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